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Would You Trade Tomas Plekanec for Joe Thornton?

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Would You Trade Tomas Plekanec for Joe Thornton?

By J.D. Lagrange, Senior Writer, All Habs Hockey Magazine

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After learning that the San Jose Sharks had taken the captaincy away from Joe Thornton, many hockey fans were somewhat surprised. After all, they have recently agreed to a contract extension for three more seasons with the big veteran center. Although they had done the same with Patrick Marleau a few years ago, seeing the captaincy removed from a current veteran roster player is not common practice among NHL teams, certainly not doing it to your last two captains as the Sharks have done!

PENTICTON, BC. – While Thornton has had the reputation of not performing in the playoffs, he has shaken that stigma in the last few seasons and he is certainly not the one who should have the finger pointed at, in my opinion, for the Sharks lack of playoff success in the last two or three years. He has raised his game, became grittier while excelling on faceoffs, not shying away from the physical play. And this got me thinking…

On my Twitter feed (@Habsterix), I asked a simple question:

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Despite knowing Tomas Plekanec’s popularity in Montreal (rightfully so), I wasn’t surprised to see mixed reactions. We saw some drastic responses from both sides and some closer responses which have to be expected when talking about a player of Thornton’s caliber. As it has been almost a decade since Big Joe has played for the Bruins in the Eastern Conference, rare are those back East who have had a chance (or taken the time) to watch the Sharks play in the West at a time when most are in bed or are hitting the bar scene.

Thornton has carried a “playoff choker” reputation for a long time and in the East, he seems to still carry that same reputation in the eyes of many. However, those who have followed the Sharks will tell you that in the last couple of playoffs, he has been performed extremely well but others on the team have not fared so well. It happens. In order to win a Stanley Cup, every player in each their own role must be at the top of their game. Even Sidney Crosby was almost a non-factor for the Penguins last year in the playoffs, and Thornton is not at Crosby’s level to carry a team on his shoulders. Thornton could not play goal and goaltending was a big, big problem for the Sharks last year. At age 35, Big Joe is still an excellent contributor and he realizes that his window to win that elusive Stanley Cup is closing rather rapidly as his career is closing in to the inevitable retirement.

I want to get back to that stigma of “playoff choker” attached to Thornton when mentioning a hypothetical trade with the Canadiens for Plekanec. While it would be unfair to Plekanec to compare regular seasons’ stats between him and the Sharks’ big centerman, I was curious to see their playoffs’ stats side by side and here’s what I found:

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I wish I could have found the faceoff percentage as well as Thornton is excellent in that category, which is key to get puck possession instead of giving it to the opponent.

What if they were key pieces in a trade?

By removing his captaincy, it seems like the message, although mix due to his contract extension, is rather clear: the Sharks wouldn’t mind making a change in leadership on their team. This is not saying that Thornton is not a good leader but the team has not lived up to the expectations put on them, at least not in the playoffs, based on the quality of team they have put together and the regular season results in the last few years. Like the Canadiens did with Brian Gionta and Josh Gorges, the Sharks may feel like they have enough young cornerstones to build their new leadership around with the likes of Logan Couture, Joe Pavelski and Marc-Edouard Vlasic, to be able to afford parting ways with the guy who the fans relate as being the face of their franchise.

Tomas Plekanec is a big part of the Montreal Canadiens and has been for several years. He is an excellent defensive player who can pitch in offensively when given the chance. As an excellent skater, I believe that he would receive serious considerations as a Selke Trophy nominee if only he was better at the faceoff dot due to the position that he plays. He has always been referred to as a “true pro.”

Let’s take a minute to compare the two players:

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If a trade was consummated between Sharks’ GM Doug Wilson and Habs’ GM Marc Bergevin, the Canadiens as a team would lose in speed, age and short-handed/defensive responsibility (although they picked up Manny Malhotra.) They would also be taking on more salary (although it would likely not be a one for one trade.) Thornton would however automatically become the team’s top centerman, far ahead David Desharnais and Lars Eller, he would improve the powerplay and he would be one of the best on faceoffs, taking key draws in the offensive zone while Malhotra would do the same in the defensive zone. He would also make the team much bigger and grittier, especially up the middle.

While some Habs fans are thinking that they would not trade for Thornton as it meant sending Plekanec the other way, I have little doubt that at the end, the team might benefit more than we think. Of course it’s all speculative and the reason for the article is not to see the feasibility of such a trade, but simply to try to shine some light on the two players involved. Either way, fans cannot wait for training camp to start as it is getting closer by the day!

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J.D. is a Senior writer for All Habs as well as Associate-Editor for the French version Le Magazine All Habs, while one of three Administrators of the fan forum Les Fantômes du Forum. He has created the handle Habsterix as a fictional character for the sole purpose of the internet. It is based on the cartoon Asterix of Gaule and his magic potion is his passion for the Montreal Canadiens. How old is he? His close friends will tell you that he’s so old, his back goes out more than he does! He was born when Béliveau lifted the Cup and remembers the days when seeing the Habs winning was not a wish, it was an expectation. For him, writing is a hobby, not a profession. Having moved to beautiful British Columbia in 1992 from his home town of Sherbrooke, Quebec, he started writing mostly in French to keep up his grammar, until non-bilingual BC friends pushed him into starting his own English Blog. His wife will say that he can be stubborn, but she will be the first to recognise that he has great sense of humour. He is always happy to share with you readers his point of views on different topics, and while it is expected that people won’t always agree, respect of opinions and of others is his mission statement. || J.D. est Rédacteur-Adjoint sur Le Magazine All Habs et il est un Rédacteur Principal sur le site anglophone All Habs, tout en étant un des trois Administrateurs du forum de discussion Les Fantômes du Forum. Il a créé le pseudonyme Habstérix comme caractère fictif pour l’internet. Celui-ci est basé sur Astérix de Gaule et sa potion magique est sa passion pour les Canadiens de Montréal. Lorsqu’il est né, Jean Béliveau soulevait la Coupe Stanley et il se rappelle des jours où gagner n’était pas un espoir, mais une attente. Pour lui, écrire est un passe-temps, pas une profession. Ayant déménagé dans la superbe Colombie-Britannique en 1992 en provenance de sa ville natale de Sherbrooke, Québec, il a commencé à écrire en français pour garder sa grammaire, jusqu’à ce que ses amis anglophones ne réussissent à le convaincre d’avoir son blog en anglais. Son épouse vous dira qu’il est têtu, mais elle sera la première à reconnaître son grand sens de l’humour. Il est toujours fier de partager avec vous, lecteurs et lectrices, ses points de vue sur différents sujets, et quoi que les gens ne s’entendent pas toujours sur ceux-ci, le respect des opinions et des autres est son énoncé de mission.

2 COMMENTS

  1. One for one, that trade gets done all day long if you’re Montreal. However, theirs no chance the Sharks deal Big Joe for a package headlined by Pleks. I love Pleks , he’s honestly the most under-rated defensive player in the NHL but with San Jose’s recent playoff failures bringing in a change in the guard, I’m willing to bet big money Wilson wants a young cornerstone in the form of Galchenyuk. If that’s the case, Bergevin must decline and move on. Honestly speaking, I firmly believe if Pleks received more offensive zone opportunities with skilled wingers, he’d consistently be a 70 point player like he was with Kovalev. But Therrien can’t do that because of Desharnais’ lack of defensive ability.

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